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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Feb 21, 2007 7:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Proof: the great ones, 1968--1971

DISCLAIMER: This is not an exhaustive list. These are just shows and/or runs that I feel will give a non-early dead head a good glimpse into the past. I appreciate that everyone has his/her own favorites. These here be mine.



Putting my mouth where the money is, may I suggest the following?

Archive references, can dl most of these at various places.


Two hot November nights at the Shrine (nov. 1967)

http://www.archive.org/details/gd67-11-10.sbd.sacks.1612.sbeok.shnf

(part of Alligator and Caution "All you need . . . . on Athem)

http://www.archive.org/details/gd67-11-11.sbd.sacks.1613.sbeok.shnf


1968"
http://www.archive.org/details/gd68-02-14.sbd.kaplan.15640.sbeok.shnf
Alligator---jam are the basis for the Anthem version.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd68-06-14.aud.cotsman.16532.sbeok.shnf

Great audience--the boys walked onstage and STARTED with the feedback!

http://www.archive.org/details/gd68-08-21.sbd.cotsman.17355.sbeok.shnf


http://www.archive.org/details/gd68-08-22.sbd.cotsman.14915.sbeok.shnf

These two are from the Fillmore West and make up half of this fabulous four night stretch.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd68-08-23.sbd.sacks.52.sbefail.shnf

The Alligator suite is the bonus track on the Anthem of the Sun release on Rhino

Two From the Vault 68-8-24 is the last of this four night stand.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd68-10-12.sbd.eD.10909.sbeok.shnf

and

http://www.archive.org/details/gd68-10-13.sbd.eD.10910.sbeok.shnf

from the Avalon

http://www.archive.org/details/gd69-02-12-late.sbd.kaplan.9072.sbeok.shnf

Companion to 2-11-68 released by GD. Opened for Janis.

The Fillmore West box set, Feb 27, 28, March 1,2.


Three fabulous nights in Boston at The Ark:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd69-04-21.sbd.bertha-ashley.19841.sbeok.shnf

http://www.archive.org/details/gd69-04-22.sbd.clugston.68.sbeok.shnf

http://www.archive.org/details/gd69-04-23.sbd.wise.70.sbeok.shnf


11-08-69 Fillmore Auditorium DP 16


12-12-69 Thelma Theater

http://www.archive.org/details/gd69-12-12.sbd.gerland.10988.sbeok.shnf

For 1970:

The two Jan shows at the Fillmore East:
http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-01-02.early-late.sbd.cotsman.18120.sbeok.shnf
http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-01-02.early-late.sbd.cotsman.18120.sbeok.shnf

5-15-70 Fillmore East: A full night of acoustic and electric dead at their best:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-08-05.sbd.jupile.17271.sbeok.shnf


DP 4 Feb13-14-70 and get the 11th while you are at it!

http://www.archive.org/details/gd69-12-12.sbd.gerland.10988.sbeok.shnf

Harpur College 5-2-70--DP 8 no longer available except as download. Try to get the NRPS set with Bobby.

Golden Concourse, San Diego 8-05-70, all acoustic:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-08-05.sbd.jupile.17271.sbeok.shnf

add this 70-7-30 Matrix acoustic to finish your cd:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-07-30.sbd.cotsman.17077.sbeok.shnf



http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-09-20.aud.remaster.sirmick.27583.sbeok.shnf

The 9-18-19-20 shows at the Fillmore East (9-20 has a long acoustic set!)

http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-09-18.sbd-aud.cotsman.17893.sbeok.shnf

http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-09-19.sbd.kaplan.5217.sbeok.shnf

http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-09-20.aud.remaster.sirmick.27583.sbeok.shnf

1971:

2-18, 19, 21, 23, 24 Capital Theater Portchester, NY

http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-09-18.sbd-aud.cotsman.17893.sbeok.shnf

http://www.archive.org/details/gd71-02-19.sbd.orf.1029.sbeok.shnf

http://www.archive.org/details/gd71-02-20.sbd.orf.111.sbeok.shnf

http://www.archive.org/details/gd71-02-21.sbd.lunz.1980.sbeok.shnf

http://www.archive.org/details/gd71-02-23.sbd.orf.113.sbeok.shnf

http://www.archive.org/details/gd71-02-24.sbd.orf.114.sbeok.shnf

Fillmore East 2-26-2-29-71 Fillmore East box set or for completists:

http://www.gdlive.com/shn/gd71-04-26.shnf/

http://www.gdlive.com/shn/gd71-04-27.shnf/

http://www.gdlive.com/shn/gd71-04-28.shnf/

http://www.gdlive.com/shn/gd71-04-28.shnf/

Harding Theater 11-07-71

http://www.archive.org/details/gd71-11-07.prefm.kaplan.9570.sbeok.shnf

Felt Forum, N.Y. run Dec 4---7

http://www.archive.org/details/gd71-12-04.sbd.lai.6256.sbefail.shnf

http://www.archive.org/details/gd71-12-05.prefm.miller.3391.sbeok.shnf

http://www.archive.org/details/gd71-12-06.sbd.kaplan.2418.sbeok.shnf

http://www.archive.org/details/gd71-12-07.sbd.miller.3375.sbeok.shnf

Fox, St Louis 12-09-71

http://www.archive.org/details/gd71-12-07.sbd.miller.3375.sbeok.shnf

Ann Arbor 12-15-71

Winterland 12-31-71

http://www.archive.org/details/gd71-12-31.fm.lanum.135.sbeok.shnf

http://www.archive.org/details/gd71-12-15.set1-sbd.harrison.hanno.16464.sbeok.shnf

1972 suggestions later. So much, so little time!






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Poster: deadn73 Date: Feb 21, 2007 7:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Proof

well goddamn! that list is hotter than a honeymoon hotel room.... but u forgot a couple
4-5-69 4-7-71
5-3-69 10-24-71
4-8-71 12-14-71
12-26-70
2-2/3-68
2-22-69
4-26-69
6-27-69
12-26-69

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Feb 21, 2007 7:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Proof

No--I didn't forget them. This in my shortlist. I don't expect anyone to listen to everything. It's an introduction to the years as I see it. I like the runs I chose, and feel the other shows are excellent representations of the period.

I should have put in a disclaimer! I imagine we will see quite a few shows posted.

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Poster: deadn73 Date: Feb 21, 2007 7:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Proof

no i agree short and simple is best, i just had the urge after readin your great list to throw some other ones out there just for fucks sake

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Feb 21, 2007 7:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Proof

God knows I had a hard time paring down such a great year as 1969! Or 1970 or 1971 (what, no Princeton Pig rap? No Manhattan Theater?).

It's still great to hear you all chime in with such enthusiasm.

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Poster: SDH2O Date: Feb 21, 2007 8:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Proof: the great ones, 1968--1971

Are you trying to kill me? It's not like I don't have enough shows already to catch up on without you piling on more. Damn. Fine, I've got 2/14/68 going now (Dire got me a nice copy a while back) and yes, it is large. Just another example of how many different "incarnations" the band when through. The young, raw power in these early shows is palpable and just amazing. Now, please, please let me be!!!!

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Feb 21, 2007 8:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Proof: the great ones, 1968--1971

YOU ROCK, SDH!!!

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Feb 21, 2007 8:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Proof: the great ones, 1968--1971

Not gonna happen. Seems to me like you've got at least one leftover hour in your day where you are not spinnin' Dead.

We'll fix that!

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Feb 21, 2007 7:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Proof: the great ones, 1968--1971

Excellent post, Pig!

What a shame most of the yo-yo's here will not bother checking out the historic and fantastic shows here, even if they have never heard them!

Much more important to find the definitive Shakedown...

http://www.archive.org/details/gd68-01-20.sbd.jools.19470.sbe-fixed.shnf

http://www.archive.org/details/gd69-05-23.sbd.kaplan.12223.sbeok.shnf

http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-02-28.sbd.cotsman.9377.sbeok.shnf



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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Feb 21, 2007 7:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Proof: the great ones, 1968--1971

Hey Cliff - it not so much a question of yo-yo-ness as lack of time-ness that makes me quail at the prospect of embarking on G.o'Pig's epic list.

Just wondering - has anyone ever listened to all of the available GD shows in chronological order? Actually wouldn't surprise me.

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Poster: gilamonster58 Date: Feb 21, 2007 2:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Proof: the great ones, 1968--1971

I'm working on it. Currently up to 11-15-69. I'll let you know how it goes...in, say, two or three years! I do have to say that '69 is divine. Their progression from the heavy psychedelia of "Live/Dead" to the country-folk-rock-blues of "Workingman's" is quite the amazing journey.

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Poster: high flow Date: Feb 21, 2007 2:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Proof: the great ones, 1968--1971

Man, you've got to have patience. I'd get halfway through '68 and a slippery '73 would be calling my name.

I just don't have the will to put down 1973 for more than say...12 hours. :)

1971 was my 1st fall-back position. Then '76 replaced '71. And finally, althought I do wander through the decades, I seem to circle-back to 1973, I'm hooked!

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Feb 21, 2007 3:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Proof: the great ones, 1968--1971

'73 dont have nothin on '74 :)

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Poster: gilamonster58 Date: Feb 21, 2007 3:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Proof: the great ones, 1968--1971

I definitely struggled with that - especially during the string of late '68 to early '69 when the set list didn't vary. However, I quickly learned that although the titles were the same, each version was unique enough to keep it interesting. And some of those Cautions made me feel like a the train was in my brain! That was the heaviest these guys ever got and I honestly don't think there was a better live band at the time. On the last night of the Ark run, the announcer says something along the lines of "I'd never heard these guys play live before but now I know. They are the greatest fuckin' rock and roll band in the world". Couldn't agree more.

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Poster: deadn73 Date: Feb 21, 2007 2:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Proof: the great ones, 1968--1971

ill second that, i cannot stay away from 73 for long its so sweet like honey

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Poster: high flow Date: Feb 21, 2007 3:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Proof: the great ones, 1968--1971

your name says it all....

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Feb 21, 2007 7:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Proof: the great ones, 1968--1971

All worthy contenders. frankly, I rarely met a show from this era that I didn't like.

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Feb 21, 2007 7:23am
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great thread, though you should change the subject title so that this will be an easier search for people...it's takes alot of time to post threads with tons of links...

a couple more 06-05-1969, 07-02-1971 , 12-05-1971 particularly and is there a good copy of Yale Bowl 07-31-1971 anywhere?







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Poster: Street Pig Date: Feb 21, 2007 10:47am
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I have yet to see a clean copy and surely would welcome it!

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Feb 21, 2007 7:22am
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Thanks--I will change it. But as noted above, I'm not trying to put out an exhaustive list--that would be waaaay too long.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 21, 2007 7:04am
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Perfect.

One addition: Racetrack: 12-29-68.

CLIFF: I have listened to it more than nine times...

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Feb 21, 2007 7:40am
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Nice to see you, will!

Cliff needs help, this time its bad, streaming it now, just cant stop...

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Feb 21, 2007 7:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Proof

Agreed. But one could add a dozen shows--trying to keep it to the essentials (IMHO!). I like the runs as they show how the band works over several nights. Hot runs at that!

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Feb 21, 2007 7:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Proof: the great ones, 1968--1971

OK, G-Pig, I give.

I have admitted in my own Top 10 list that I am woefully ignorant of the catalogue of pre-1970 Dead. It just hasn't been my cup of tea. yeah, i'll pull out Live/Dead every now and then to get a little Tom Constanten fix--kind of like watching "On her Majesty's Secret Service" for the novelty of seeing a guy named George Lazenby play 007 for the only time in the film's franchise history (it's actually one of the best Bond films, as it turns out), but usually I just wave at that 60's stuff and go DL another show from '77.

Now i'm taking a chance at changing my ways.

I've looked at your list and have decided ONE show to access and I hope i'm making the right pick. It got all 5 star reviews here on the LMA so it seems like the one to go with, unless you've got a better suggestion. It's 2-14-68.

I'm prepared to be wowed, and hope i'm not confirming my worst suspicions instead that this stuff is just hopelessly dated a la "Listen to what the flower people say" from "Spinal Tap."

I'll get back to you, and thanks for the list.

GC

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Poster: deadn73 Date: Feb 21, 2007 7:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Proof: the great ones, 1968--1971

good choice that show is a high octane powerhouse, though not for the faint of heart, miles away from the peaceful easy breeze of 77

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Feb 21, 2007 7:52am
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yeah, I figured as much....but before we pigeonhole '77 as some kind of FM-Lite year, I urge any and all to listen to such high-powered octane as the Half Step from 11-6-77, the SugarMags from 10-29-77, the Dew from 5-8-77, or virtually any "Other One" from that year.

Yes, you had gorgeousness and tranquillity in much of the '77 catalogue, like the Love Each Other from 5-25-77 and the Jack a Roe from 5-17-77, but there was a lot of ass-kicking rock and roll thrown in there too (jack straw and Might as well from 10-29-77...oh, hell, don't get me started ;-)!

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Feb 21, 2007 8:03am
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No slam on 1977. Dead lite to me is not an insult. Just a much mellower sound than 1969. I do think the revamped St. Stephen sucks, but many of the songs are stronger and better.

You don't have to jam at 180 m.p.h to make great music.

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Poster: deadn73 Date: Feb 21, 2007 8:12am
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well said me loves 77 too, especially the 1/2 steps

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Feb 21, 2007 7:44am
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Cliff suggests william tells favorite '68 show, 10/12/68...

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Feb 21, 2007 8:01am
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Another great one, worthy of a DP. The early copies were missing the end of the show (it was thought that they were turned off). Now it is complete. Listen to it with 10-13.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 21, 2007 10:51am
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Good call CLIFF; yes, 10-12-68 has long been a fav, but now, 12-29-68 is currently my top 68 listening time wise, for what that means...

I would pick my current 'top' 68s as:

1-20/22-68
6-14-68
8-23-68
10-12-68
12-29-68

I know that leaves some stellar shows out in the cold, rain and snow, but that is a nice list nonetheless to occupy the player for the month...

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Feb 21, 2007 7:58am
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Turn that muthuh up LOAD. Especially the Alligator sequence! That is the show where Jerry allegedly shoved Phil down the stairs to get his ass in gear. When they came out for the Alligator--Caution it was. I dare say that you will never find a Phil jam stronger or more manic as this. Yep, there are some other great ones--but here, Phil pushes Jerry like a bulldozer pushes a mound of sand.

Can't miss.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Feb 21, 2007 2:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Proof: the great ones, 1968--1971

Wow. Just powered through 2-14-68 in an attempt to broaden my pre-70's Dead horizons.

Where to begin? Well, it's not that I don't still prefer the 1977 stuff, but my eyes and ears have been opened.

I still don't like what I call the "dungeons and dragons" feel to songs like Cryptical...it just seems dated to me when they sing that kind of stuff...(guess why I preferred the later years when they dropped the front and back end of that Anthem material and just played TOO, but I digress)...

when they jam in shows like this (2-14-68) it IS INCREDIBLE. Just the raw energy in jerry's gritty guitar...the hard edge to the playing...and really, the whole band, when in the throes of that Alligator>Caution Jam are just BLAZING...it really is as hardcore as a punk band performance, and that makes sense given the time period, and the fact that these guys WERE the punks of their day--forging a psychedelic/hard rock/blues/garage band/jam-based marathon that was the new sound of its day.

I also love just how YOUNG Jerry sounds--he's full of the energy of the time and his own youthful power...and it really comes across when he lets his fingers fly. I can see how that time period is unrivaled in terms of that sheer youthful gusto--and given how hard they partied the burn-out that took Pig's life also took a toll as early as 1972...you do hear them start to mellow a bit then, even though that process began w/some of the country flavored songs of American beauty...but right up til Pig left their shows were marked by that uncanny power sound--ugly at times, raw always, but when ON, as itense as you can get.

So thanks for the suggestion--i'll be checking out some other pre-1970 stuff, and while I still think in the late 70's they werre a far more mature band, writing better songs and performing to a higher standard, there is no longer any doubt in my mind that some of the late 60's material, ESPECIALLY the "shut up and jam" sections, are a gold mine of amazing energy and mind blowing musical Dead.

4 stars for the show, a STRONG 4 stars, w/points off only b/c I still think the singing is VERY warbly in parts, and I just find some of the lyrics and certain musical sections dated . (Criticsms that can certainly be applied to some later Dead years as well).

Thanks again, G-Pig.

GC

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 21, 2007 4:43pm
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That IS the draw..."young Jerry." I couldn't agree more.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Feb 21, 2007 8:01am
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Excellent.

Looking forward to it!

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Feb 21, 2007 8:05am
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Odd story about Anthem. I was playing the record for a friend in 1970--a dead naysayer. He picked up another friend's bass. Mind you, he had never played before. Within a minute or so, he was playing as well as Phil. Never understood that. Last I heard, he was playing with a guy that sounded like Jorma.

Very strange to hear two basses on that jam.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 21, 2007 10:54am
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That is great, GC; just as I followed Dire and Arbuthnot to check out 77, 78 and 87, it is always a good feeling to find someone going the other direction.

The forum available shows I listed above are all great for this year--ie, 1-20/22-68, 8-23-68, 10-12-68 and 12-29-68.

Have fun.